Comments on: I am a progressive patriot http://innermostparts.org/2008/03/18/i-am-a-progressive-patriot/ A blog about Brandeis University, progressive politics, and the spirit of Justice Louis Dembitz Brandeis on the campus today. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:57:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Ben Serby http://innermostparts.org/2008/03/18/i-am-a-progressive-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Ben Serby Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:59:52 +0000 http://innermostparts.org/2008/03/18/i-am-a-progressive-patriot/#comment-207 So now I'm really not clear on the distinction. You seem to be saying in your response that "liberal" denotes a set of values, while "progressive" is a term used to describe a political outlook (specifically, one that involves all of what you mentioned above, about striving for a more perfect union, etc.) Am I understanding? So now I’m really not clear on the distinction. You seem to be saying in your response that “liberal” denotes a set of values, while “progressive” is a term used to describe a political outlook (specifically, one that involves all of what you mentioned above, about striving for a more perfect union, etc.) Am I understanding?

]]> By: Sahar http://innermostparts.org/2008/03/18/i-am-a-progressive-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-204 Sahar Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:47:22 +0000 http://innermostparts.org/2008/03/18/i-am-a-progressive-patriot/#comment-204 Ben, I feel like you're using political science vocabulary that I'm not aware of. What is 'movement-philosophy'? Is it just what it sounds? I do really like the slogan "Liberalism is an approach to policy, progressivism is an approach to politics". That encapsulates my thought really well. Is liberalism less substantial? No. Liberalism is not even a philosophy of policy as much as a (good!) value system of viewing the word. Liberalism as a word, however, was hijacked to also mean "center-leftism" in this country, and it creates confusion. I do think you can be a progressive without there being a "progressive movement". Being a progressive means you believe, really believe, in people-power. That you question authority. Being a progressive means recognizing that our fates are connected / we are all in this together / that I am my brothers keeper. It really is a sort of eagerness to strive for that more perfect union. Ben, I feel like you’re using political science vocabulary that I’m not aware of. What is ‘movement-philosophy’? Is it just what it sounds?

I do really like the slogan “Liberalism is an approach to policy, progressivism is an approach to politics”. That encapsulates my thought really well.

Is liberalism less substantial? No. Liberalism is not even a philosophy of policy as much as a (good!) value system of viewing the word. Liberalism as a word, however, was hijacked to also mean “center-leftism” in this country, and it creates confusion.

I do think you can be a progressive without there being a “progressive movement”. Being a progressive means you believe, really believe, in people-power. That you question authority. Being a progressive means recognizing that our fates are connected / we are all in this together / that I am my brothers keeper. It really is a sort of eagerness to strive for that more perfect union.

]]> By: Ben Serby http://innermostparts.org/2008/03/18/i-am-a-progressive-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-201 Ben Serby Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:06:07 +0000 http://innermostparts.org/2008/03/18/i-am-a-progressive-patriot/#comment-201 So would you say that, by and large, progressivism is a movement-philosophy, while "liberal" is something less substantial (a word that just signifies a relative stance on a particular issue)? So would you say that, by and large, progressivism is a movement-philosophy, while “liberal” is something less substantial (a word that just signifies a relative stance on a particular issue)?

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